(l-r) Jay Armstrong Johnson, Michael Arden, and Eddie Cooper      from Broadways Parade, photographed at The Skylark in New      York City. Photo by Seth Caplan for Queerty        
    Michael Arden, Eddie Cooper, and Jay Armstrong Johnson meet me    in the secluded billiards room at The Skylark, a rooftop venue    overlooking midtown Manhattan. From our vantage point  with    the theater district just blocks away and skyscrapers piercing    the skyline  the world feels full of limitless possibilities.    But history has shown us otherwise.   
    Weve gathered to talk about their experiences working on    Broadways Parade, the    musical revival based on the real lives of Leo and Lucille    Frank (Ben Platt and Michaela Diamond), a newly married Jewish    couple living in 1910s Atlanta. Leo worked as a pencil factory    superintendent, where Mary Phagan, a 13-year-old factory    worker, was found murdered. Prosecuting attorney Hugh Dorsey    led a racially and religiously charged trial, resulting in    Leos conviction and death sentence.  
    The case made national headlines, and after two years, several    appeals, and a change of heart by then-governor John M. Slaton,    Leos case was commuted to life in prison. But on August 16,    1915, several dozen men kidnapped Leo, drove to Marietta, and    lynched him near where Phagan had once lived.  
    Parade  despite a title that evokes patriotic    American flags and marching bands  tells a much different    story, one that our nation continues to reckon with. Our    ideologies around race, religion, and sexual orientation    continue to collide. And with the next presidential election    looming, the threats against marginalized communities are more    vulnerable than ever.  
    The following are excerpts from our conversation, just days    before Parade     won the Tony Award for Best Revival and Arden was honored    with Best Direction of a Musical.  
    I saw the original 1999 production of Parade    at Lincoln Center as well as this revival both    at City    Center and its Broadway transfer. Each    time, Ive been moved by the uncompromising exploration of    racial and religious discrimination and how that intersects    with my queer identity. Michael and Jay  youre both from    Texas what kind of impact did that have on you in    relation to your LGBTQ+ identities?  
    Michael: In Texas, I certainly felt that being    queer was being queer. Meaning that whether you felt    shame about it or not, it was something that was on the    outskirts of what was accepted.  
    I was lucky enough to have a coming-out moment that was really    supportive. My ninth-grade English teacher asked us to write an    essay on the first day of school about what we learned about    ourselves that summer. I revealed that I was gay, and she    pulled me aside and said, I just want you to know that this    place that we are in can be very judgmental. But you always    have a friend, a supporter, and an ally in me. And this was    before we used words like ally.  
    That first interaction was incredible. But, you know, in    acknowledging where we were, it was like, yeah, this, this is    going to be hard. But there are people who will always support    you. If you look at states like Florida or Texas, or many    places that are seemingly very conservative, the people who are    allies and who support queer folks like us are so incredible    and so vital.  
    Its easy to say, Oh, the South is one thing. But its    actually those allies who work twice as hard.  
    What about your experience, Jay?  
    Jay: I started out Southern Baptist. Yikes.    And then we went to Disciples of Christ, which is a bit more of    a liberal denomination, but my whole life growing up, gay was    bad. As a straight-A student who went to church every Sunday    and considered himself a good Christian boy, I did not fully    believe I was gay even though everyone could smell it on me,    and I was being called slurs from a very early age, like third    grade.  
    I started doing professional theater at 13 years old. They    would fly in talent from New York City, and it was the first    time I met gay people that were smart, kind, and successful.  
    How does it feel now  to show up as your authentic    self? Your outfit is fantastic, by the way.  
    Jay: Whats wild is that I was always    strolling around in my grandmothers closet and trying on her    heels, muumuus, and wigs. That was a secret I kept hidden from    the world, and if I got caught, Id probably be in a lot of    trouble.  
    Its only this year that Im leaning into this kind of    nonbinary way of dressing and thinking about appearing anything    other than hypermasculine. My friend DW [costume designer David    Withrow] dresses me, and thats helped me step into what has    always been me but Ive always been so scared of.  
    I even had a manager when I was in my early 20s that told me to    not be seen in public with my boyfriend. When I got to New    York, there were still those who tried to keep me as closeted    as possible.  
    Michael: Thats why its so important to have    a teacher like mine, being like, Hey, it might be difficult,    but you have to live your life, and I will support you in    whatever you want.  
    Who are the allies in Parade?  
    Michael: There are allies and people who    become allies. Leo Franks defense attorney, Luther Rosser    [played by Christopher Gurr], certainly. But then we see people    like Minnie McKnight [played by Danielle Lee Greaves], the    Franks household servant, who would be an ally, but because of    who she is and the time she is living in, isnt able to    function as the human she dares to be. She is a victim of this    place, but I believe she is an ally. [In the musical, McKnight    gives false testimony against Leo Frank but eventually retracts    her statement.]  
    By the way, Danielle is absolutely phenomenal. I    couldnt keep my eyes off her during the lengthy trial scene,    where her character is forced to sit in the back of the    courtroom. I could feel the heat of that room by watching her.    As is Micaela Diamond as Lucille. That character evolves into a    powerful advocate.  
    Eddie: The play is just as much about feminism    as it is about anti-Semitism.  
    Michael: You also see allyship in very small    ways, and tiny little lines of dialogue, like Officer Ivey    [played by Jackson Teeley], questioning the district attorney     But we got no evidence  people trying to do the right thing.    Unfortunately, its the systematic structure of the American    judicial system  
    Eddie:  and white supremacy. The story takes    place during a time when this is ever-present; its just the    way of the world.  
    Michael: Its so present that its invisible.  
    Eddie, you grew up in Manhattan Plaza, a famous New    York City 1,692-unit housing complex known for its theater    residents.  
    Eddie: Yes, I grew up in a theater family in a    building that was for people in the arts. On paper, I should    have been super comfortable coming out the second I had an    inkling. But I didnt. I mean, my fathers an actor; my mother    is wonderful. Intellectually, I knew that they would have no    problem with it. But I guess, just growing up and taking in the    media that I took in, it still scared me.  
    What do you think was holding you back?  
    Eddie: Its something Ive asked myself a lot.  
    Jay: Youve mentioned the AIDS epidemic,    Eddie, and how that was so visible to you. Could that be part    of it?  
    Eddie: Yeah, growing up in Manhattan Plaza    during the 80s and 90s, people were dying all around me.  
    [According to the NYC LGBT History Sites    Project, at one point, the building had the highest    per-capita concentration of AIDS-related deaths in the world.    Residents established the Manhattan Plaza AIDS Project, a    community initiative that provided care for those living with    HIV/AIDS.]  
    I would see someone in the elevator  and I was very young     and notice a lesion and think, Oh, Im not going to see him    for much longer. So maybe there was some internalization that    I darkly equated with being gay.  
    Jay: When I came out in 2005, the first words    out of my mothers mouth were, Dont get AIDS and die.  
    Michael: That was so much of Americas    introduction to the idea that there were actually    queerpeople right around them. Im certain some kids now    have trouble coming out, but were not living with youll    probably die in the way kids of the 80s faced. But that    particular response to AIDS and the fear of it was really,    really big. And so we became silent.  
    Eddie: It was scary watching that. There was a    table in the lobby and every time someone in the building    passed away, they would put their name, the day that they were    born, and the day they passed. Before I even looked at the    name, Id look at the date  and theyd be in their 20s or 30s.  
    So I didnt come out until much later and was actually living    in Japan at the time. My mother called me at 3 a.m. and said we    need to talk. I asked about what, and she said, About you    being gay. And I thought, oh, that just happened! So, I said,    Yeah, Im gay. What do we need to talk about? And she said,    Well, nothing, I guess. And it was amazing. Theres no    feeling like that moment when its just out there and youre    accepted.  
    Michael: Ian McKellen    taught a masterclass when I was in school, which was wild. And    he said that he couldnt actually be the artist he is until    that moment when he came out because he was spending so much of    his energy acting in his life that he couldnt live his life    and absorb the tools he needed in order to do his work.  
    Do you feel that way, Michael?  
    Michael: Totally. When I fully came out to my    grandparents, who raised me, it was huge. I had a panic attack,    which led to me realizing thats what I need to deal with. You    know, fear can take many different shapes.  
    I suppose we all find ways of getting by, depending on    our circumstances. Growing up in a primarily Italian suburb of    Cleveland, I knew I was a Jew before I knew I was gay    and felt like an outsider with just a handful of other    Jewish students. But like Jay, I was pegged as queer long    before I had the vocabulary to describe or defend myself. So I    found a way to fit in.  
    Michael: We spend an unbelievable amount of    energy assimilating.  
    Jay: And thats so baked into Parade    and the character of Lucille as a homegrown Southern Jew  
    Michael:  to the point where shes    perpetuating white supremacy. Like shell wave a confederate    flag because she doesnt want to be seen as different, but    shes hated just as much, though she thinks she can hide in her    assimilation.  
    Eddie: Early in the play, when Leo tells her    not to be such a meshuggeneh [crazy in Yiddish], she says,    Why do you use words like that?  
    Its interesting that this musical is playing on    Broadway at the same time as Tom Stoppards Leopoldstadt, which    deals with the repercussions of generational assimilation, and    Alex Edelmans Just For Us, in which    the comedian examines the source of anti-Semitic online    threats.  
    Michael: When you think about it, most    religion is based on the idea of an afterlife. People are    obsessed with our insignificance on Earth. If Ive only got 80    years to live  if Im lucky  then what is the rest of    eternity going to be? So we wake up, build buildings, and form    societies, because we have to believe in something. But dont    we have better things to talk about, to figure out, like the    lives of those after us, and not just our own?  
    Eddie: Religion is a very big part of my    characters story in Parade. [Newt Lee, a night    watchman at the factory, discovered Phagans body and was    initially considered a prime suspect.] When all is lost for    him, he turns to God, which is something incredibly foreign to    me. But its been interesting to step into that, question it,    and live that onstage.  
    Its interesting  I hadnt drawn the parallel between    Leo and Newt. Your character repeats a passage from John    11:25-26 while being interrogated. And in Leos final moment    before being lynched, he sings the     Shema, a central Jewish prayer and affirmation of God. Its    very haunting in retrospect to see that connection. Michael, as    a director, how do you tackle these broad themes of collective    consciousness with detailed story arcs and character    development?  
    Michael: In the case of that particular moment    with Leo, the lights come up. I wanted to leave the play for a    moment and have the audience see each other. To shine a light    on ourselves that were actually part of this, too. The    audience can take that as they will, whether theyre culpable    in the death of this man who may or may not have been innocent,    to examine their own relationship to religion, and ultimately    be seen by this person who is hoping to hold someone both    accountable or as a witness.  
    What Im hoping to do in Parade is to break the time    continuum. Who knows what happens in the moment of death? The    audience can find their way toward their own version of truth.  
    Jay, your character, Britt Craig, is an opportunistic    reporter who wrote for theAtlanta Constitution    and colored the publics perception of Leo Frank and the    circumstances surrounding the trial. Can you speak more about    that?  
    Jay: He was absolutely opportunistic  the    fake news of it all is very much 2023. My approach was        Tucker Carlson meets Charlie Chaplin in terms of spreading    so much misinformation and the physicality of the performance.  
    Its interesting to me because some of my family are such Fox    News aficionados. I cant walk into my moms, dads, or aunts    home without Fox News being ever-present. Dipping into those    actual facts  I am a racist in recovery because of how I was    raised in Texas  its been difficult for me to play this    character, and also cathartic. Hes a hateful dude. Its been a    gift and also a scary excavation, but Michael has created such    a safe space. And weve been given some really great tools,    with sensitivity and wellness coaches to help us navigate the    harder parts of our jobs.  
    Michael: The Civil War was lost by the South,    and they were told this is the new way of life. They needed an    outlet for hate, and the easiest outlet is the other.  
    Eddie: Theres the moment in the show where    two suspects are being investigated: a Black man and a Jewish    man. Its old hat to hate Black folks. Theres a line where    prosecuting attorney Dorsey says, Hangin another nigra aint    enough this time. We gotta do better.  
    Jay: Ive thought about this a lot in our    process. And weve had a lot of tough conversations in our    rehearsals about what it was to be a person of color or a    Jewish person of faith in the South in 1913. We never really    touched on queerness.  
    Theres a starkly crafted moment when defense attorney    Rosser questions Leo before the trial. Rumors spread that Leo    frequented a cat house (brothel), and Rosser insinuates that    he liked boys, too. Leo exclaims, That is vile! I never in my    life  Oh my God! He shutters in a way that, at least for me,    portrays someone who, despite being pegged for a crime because    of his religious beliefs, can be prejudiced. Its a potent    reminder of how fear of other runs so deep. Can we as a    society change?  
    Jay: The dial has been moved, but the    opposition is moving even fiercer, and I can feel that in a    terrifying way. Pride is a protest, and it really    does feel like we have to continue that energy. Because its    still so scary out there, especially for our young ones. You    know, Im thinking about kids in Texas. With all    of this legislation, our trans and nonbinary youth are having    their identities shut out and being told that they dont exist.    Im nervous about it.  
    Eddie: There is so much anti-LGBTQ+    legislation, but it also feels to me like the death throes.    Young people are with it, right? And the people doing all this    stuff dont get that. Theyre just scared of change that is so    beyond their control. Its their screams of desperation.  
    Jay: We had neo-Nazis show up at    our first preview.  
    Michael: I was buoyed by the fact that a    handful of protesters showed up who were incredibly ugly and    loud and yet, when we were united on stage with the audience,    we outnumbered them by 100 times, and how beautiful we sounded.  
    I have faith. We are the consumers, we are the voters, and the    children are smart. We have to look to them and reach out. Im    hopeful that we can offer a hand in dark moments and sing even    louder.  
    And get them to vote!  
    Interviews have been edited for length and clarity.  
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